John Cook of UnskepticalScience discovers that 33% = 97%. Here’s why he has no idea of what he’s talking about and how his study is massively cherry picked. On JoNova.
- WUWT: The 97% consensus – a lie of epic proportions
- The Backboard: I Do Not Think it Means What You Think it Means
- WUWT: Fuzzy math: In a new soon to be published paper, John Cook claims ‘consensus’ on 32.6% of scientific papers that endorse AGW
- Heh. Poking fun at Cook’s 97%.
- 97.1% of scientists in 1850 believed mercury the best treatment for syphilis.
- 97.1% of pre-Copernican scientists fervently believed the sun rotated around the earth.
- Consensus ≠ science
Feynman on the Scientific Method, something that the consensus crowd would not be familiar with.
Update 2/15/13: More from Forbes: Peer-Reviewed Survey Finds Majority Of Scientists Skeptical Of Global Warming Crisis
Update 7/26/12: Forbes column on that “consensus.” More consensus debunking. The article also debunks the specific expertise of that fabled 97%, that the 97% is a global consensus, and a few other things.
Heh. This is funny. From a July ’09 post at Climate Depot:
An outpouring of skeptical scientists who are members of the American Chemical Society (ACS) are revolting against the group’s editor-in-chief — with some demanding he be removed — after an editorial appeared claiming “the science of anthropogenic climate change is becoming increasingly well established.”
The editorial claimed the “consensus” view was growing “increasingly difficult to challenge, despite the efforts of diehard climate-change deniers.” The editor now admits he is “startled” by the negative reaction from the group’s scientific members. The American Chemical Society bills itself as the “world’s largest scientific society.”
…ACS member Wallace Embry: “I would like to see the American Chemical Society Board ‘cap’ Baum’s political pen and ‘trade’ him to either the New York Times or Washington Post.”
Here’s the rest of the post. Lots of good quotes from outraged scientists (and other stuff:) Climate Revolt
Heh. Maybe a lot of such trades could be made. Don’t know what the Times could offer the ACS in trade, though. They’re out of money and don’t have any scientists on board…
On a related topics, Believers like to say things like this, “The scientific consensus says…” Want to see some backtracking and redefining of “scientific consensus?” Point out the fact that the overwhelming majority of scientists, who are willing to state an opinion, are strongly opposed to the concept of catastrophic warming.
In addition to the ACS above, here are a few others:
- Climate Depot: Over 130 German scientists say: ‘Growing body of evidence shows anthropogenic CO2 plays no measurable role (in climate change.)’ Their concerns were presented to in an Open Letter to German Chancellor Angela Merkel and the letter is included in the post.
- 500 peer-reviewed papers supporting the skeptic view – This is not a complete list, by any means, but it’s a great start.
- Manhattan Declaration on Climate Change- …That there is no convincing evidence that CO2 emissions from modern industrial activity has in the past, is now, or will in the future cause catastrophic climate change….
- 114 signers (scientists) present when this was presented at the New York Climate Conference in ’08.
- 707 scientists not present.
- 600 citizen endorsers, many with science backgrounds
- Oregon Petition- Over 31,000 American scientists, over 9,000 of the being PhDs, say that Catastrophic Global Warming is not supported by the evidence. This is not the same thing as saying there is no warming/cooling or that said hypothetical warming is a bad thing. The petition also states the CO2 is a beneficial gas, not a pollutant.
- Ha! But they’re not climate scientists!! Oh really? How about 3800 climate scientists? Check this page – Atmospheric, environmental, and Earth sciences includes 3,804 scientists trained in specialties directly related to the physical environment of the Earth and the past and current phenomena that affect that environment.
- US Senate Minority Report: More Than 700 International Scientists Dissent Over Man-Made Global Warming Claims
- Heidelberg Appeal with 4,000+ signers. Note that this appeal doesn’t specifically state anything about warming, but is an appeal for fact-based science and for policy that considers human interests. The latter is very contrary to the goals of most alarmists.
- Remarks about that consensus by the Houston Chronicle.
- Gavin Schmidt (GS) of RealClimate says the science is not settled is his critique of a WaPo article. Too bad GS doesn’t put much effort into correcting alarmist remarks about the science being settled. Now “settled science” isn’t “there’s a consensus…” but it certainly implies consensus, otherwise there is no settled science. So one might argue that GS is saying there is no consensus.
- More remarks (from 2005) about the consensus, including how “the consensus” may have started.
- August 19, 2008 — A major international scientific conference prominently featured the voices and views of scientists skeptical of man-made global warming fears. The International Geological Congress, dubbed the geologists’ equivalent of the Olympic Games, was held in Oslo, Norway, from August 4-14.
- Canadian scientists disagree with AGW
Some say that there are 2,500 scientists in the warming consensus, others say that that number is actually closer to 25.
31,000+ opposed to 25 for… Hmmm….
Now, in reality, consensus in science is pretty meaningless. It just takes one voice, with the right idea and the right data, to break a consensus. Of course, that one voice has to get through the layers of pal-review to get his paper(s) published… Einstein say much the same thing (about consensus) in this wiki article – 100 authors against Einstein.
Title was updated to the current, just to make this post a bit easier to find.
Mike Hulme – Consensus Science – This is a post on The Air Vent discussing consensus science and what is meant by that term.
Updating my thoughts on “the consensus agrees…” This phrase is generally used to justify Al Gore’s (and more extreme) version of Global Warming, and is, therefore, complete nonsense. The scientific consensus might actually agree that we’ve warmed a bit since the 30s (and that amount can be argued about,) but that’s not the spin that the public hears.
- Ooooo… ouch! The 97% “Consensus” is only 76 Self-Selected Climatologists
- More on the 97% – it’s 97% of the 80 or so who fit the right criteria after the poll was sent to 10,000 scientists. So the real number might be 0.73% or thereabouts.
- More remarks on the 97% and this comment was from the same page, “Having done survey research for 20 years I can tell you for certain that the wording of the questions, the sample technique, sample size, the interview method (personal, telephone, mail), question type (true/false, multiple choice, rating scale, open ended, etc.) and even the positioning of the questions relative to each other will effect outcome. Of course, cherry picking is best for obtaining the result one wants.”