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Green Damage to the Environment?

Posted by greg2213 on February 12, 2013

One example of this, obviously, is clear-cutting forests to put up massive farms of bird-shredders windmills, devices with unreliable power generation and little practical use, in addition to the anti-environmental aspects of the things.

NoTricksZone has an article claiming that the greens are rather stunned by their destructive policies. In the off chance that this might be true I will stifle my scoffing.

From the article: 

I was truly horrified by the scale of the environmental destruction and mayhem brought on by the recent climate protection movement. It is truly madness at a whole new level and dimension. If you have the chance to see the documentary, then do so. You’ll be shaking your head throughout the film.

Indeed the level of destruction with respect to loss of eco-systems, biodiversity, erosion, etc. brought on by the “green economy” is far beyond anything man-made climate change was ever fantasized of causing by the year 2100. The current damage caused by the “green economy” is real, and it’s happening here and right now. Worse, it’s all taking place with the official green stamp of approval.

In the film, environmental economist Nico Paech says:

Climate protection as it is practiced now is throwing the baby out with the bath water.”

The green economy, intended to rescue the climate from a man-made climate catastrophe in a computer, is in reality systematically accelerating the wide-scale destruction of the environment today by at least a factor of ten.

Many greens are having their eyes opened for the first time, and are now grudgingly admitting that something has gone terribly awry. Wiping out the Earth’s eco-system to rescue the climate is not what they had in mind.

Yet they still refuse to acknowledge that they’ve erred with the climate science, and that all the destruction was unnecessary. They still insist the computerized catastrophe is real, approaching fast, and that we need to act rapidly. The only thing they’re admitting is that the “green energy” sources of hydro-power and biofuel are no longer options. In their view the human race is now in a dilemma because so many sources of energy must never be used. There’s no painless way out.

Here’s the link: Greens Now Stunned/Stumped By The Massive Environmental Collateral Damage From Climate Protection

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Sierra Club Takes Oil Money

Posted by greg2213 on January 27, 2013

Word just fail me. Well, not entirely.

One of the major “fossil fuels are evil” groups, a leading pusher of the CAGW meme, takes oil money and lots of it.

And that’s really what the whole thing is about, isn’t it? Power and money.

All the juicy details are here: The Sierra Club’s Broken Moral Compass

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New Zealand Skeptics Rout Government Climatists

Posted by greg2213 on August 2, 2012

I’d seriously love to see a love more of this. If the hysterics wants us to believe their “science” then they need to show their work.

New Zealand skeptics of man-made global warming score historic legal victory as discredited government climate scientists perform U-turn and refuse to allow a third party peer-review report of official temperature adjustments to be shown in court. Skeptic lawyers move for sanctions likely to prove fatal to government’s case.

Breaking: Courtroom Chaos as New Zealand Skeptics Rout Government Climatists

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Heartland Institute and Green Funding

Posted by greg2213 on February 18, 2012

Update 2/24: WUWT has a ton of links on this whole affair, which the alarmists are defending. Rep. Markey has definitely swallowed the kool-aid here.

Some notes on the Heartland fluffle:

There’s been a lot of bed-wetting in the alarmist blogosphere about “the evil Heartland Institute” (corrupting small children, spreading rumors, etc.) They’e horrified, just really outraged and totally frazzled, that Heartland had the unmitigated gall to contribute some money to skeptic climate concerns. Many of them don’t even care that the core Heartland doc was faked (hence the label, Fakegate.) Doesn’t bother me, since it just makes them look even sillier than usual.

Heartland. Oh the horrors. Oh the wet sheets. Ugh.

JoNova, as usual, puts it all in perspective.
(click image for a bigger pic.)

How Much Money???

Image is a slightly modified on from JoNova’s site: Fakegate: the smog blog exposes irrational rage, innumeracy, and heartland’s efficient success.

So we have this:

  • Heartland budget, $7 mil
  • Greenpeace, WWF, Pew, Sierra club: about $1.4 billion.

So with a little math… 202 times that of Heartland. One could make interesting remarks about their credibility, I think.

By the way, being green pays rather well: see green funding,

As far as this non-scandal Vs Climategate? Well, there really isn’t any comparison, but I don’t think anyone’s mind will be changed here.

Update 2/18: Can’t really argue with what Steve says:

The scandal has nothing to do with HI funding skeptics.

It has to do with warmists engaging in felony fraud, forgery, libel and defamation of character. Any journalist who hasn’t figured that out yet is clearly in a weakened mental state. They should be running away from this as fast as they can.

Here’s the post.

Update 2/19:

Update 2/21:

Peter Gleick has fessed up to all but forging the memo. I seriously doubt the he, or most on his side feel that he’s done anything wrong.

Gleik is too valuable an asset to the cause. His legal costs till be covered by the cause and he’ll lay low for a little while, until the smoke clears, Shortly thereafter he will start making noises again, after all is forgotten and forgiven by the green side. I doubt that any legal action brought by any parties damaged by his actions will amount to much. He’ll be back.

Judith Curry writes, in part:

When ‘Heartlandgate’ first broke, I saw no parallels with Climategate.  Now, with the involvement of Gleick, there most certainly are parallels.  There is the common theme of climate scientists compromising personal and professional ethics, integrity, and responsibility, all in the interests of a ’cause’.

On the one hand, Climategate involved a large number of people that were involved in the IPCC.  Apart from the FOI avoidance that was arguably criminal, everyone seems to have been ‘cleared’ by the various investigations.  On the other hand, Gleick is only one person, but his actions are far more serious, particularly if they involve fabrication of a document.

If the scientific and environmental communities were to react like Andy Revkin, then the damage from this potentially can be contained (one bad egg):

The broader tragedy is that his decision to go to such extremes in his fight with Heartland has greatly set back any prospects of the country having the “rational public debate” that he wrote — correctly — is so desperately needed.

Joe Romm, at least so far, has ignored the whole issue.  Which strategically is not a bad move.

Unfortunately, already we are seeing signs of exactly the opposite strategy.  Over at DeSmog Blog:

Whistleblowers – and that’s the role Gleick has played in this instance – deserve respect for having the courage to make important truths known to the public at large. Without condoning or promoting an act of dishonesty, it’s fair to say that Gleick took a significant personal risk – and by standing and taking responsibility for his actions, he has shown himself willing to pay the price. For his courage, his honor, and for performing a selfless act of public service, he deserves our gratitude and applause.

Scott Mandia, a leader of the Climate Rapid Response Team, is quoted:

…”Heartland has been subverting well-understood science for years,” wrote Scott Mandia, co-founder of the climate science rapid response team. “They also subvert the education of our school children by trying to ;’teach the controversy’ where none exists.”He went on: “Peter Gleick, a scientist who is also a journalist just used the same tricks that any investigative reporter uses to uncover the truth. He is the hero and Heartland remains the villain. He will have many people lining up to support him.”

The climate insanity factor has just jumped upwards a big notch.

Here’s the whole article, well worth reading: Gleick’s ‘integrity’

As far as DeSmog and Mandia’s remarks, I don’t think they can be called lies since these guys believe them to the core of their being. That they are nonsensical is another matter.

2/23: Monckton weighs in on WUWT: Fakegate: why the perps should be prosecuted

…what we call Fakegate – the frauds recently perpetrated to the detriment of the blameless Heartland Institute. Among some there was a feeling, often expressed by the nicer but more woolly-headed and ineffectual sort of skeptic, that somehow scientists who commit frauds ought not to be prosecuted for them, for otherwise academic research would become impossible.

I hear this unsoundly-founded point so often that it is hard to keep an even temper. A fraud is a fraud is a fraud, whether perpetrated by a scientist or by anyone else….

But will anyone act?

I’ll be very surprised if anyone faces criminal charges, much gets anything more than a slap on the wrist. I fully expect that all guilty parties will be well defended by their crowd and will, in a few weeks, be continuing as if nothing had happened. More likely it’ll be “Dude! Fake, but accurate! You spoke TRUTH to the evil-doers!”

2/23b: Should anyone get jail time? Hmmm….. Maybe it’s enough for the skeptic crowd to know the lengths these people will go to. They’ve lost credibility in the eyes of a group who gave them none to begin with. They’ve lost a few people more or less on their side. They’ve reinforced themselves in the eyes of their hysterical base. Would libel penalties be a deterrent or a call to further Martyrdom?

2/23c: Dr. G. wins the coveted Hippie of the Week award. Congratulations!

2/25: Gleicks possible motives? Is this the editorial which pushed him over the edge. Gleick joins another association.

2/27: About the funding of the evil climate denial (there is no climate???) machine, check this out.

2/28: Killer question, since the alarmosphere considers Gleick’s escapes to be wonderful: “Would Copernicus and Galileo have been right to lie about the nature of the solar system if that lie prevented the undermining of the Catholic Church, which most everyone at the time felt to have substantial positive benefits?”

2/28: Donna Laframboise adds : Where Do Gleick’s Apologists Draw the Line? Climate audit explains why Gleick could be in serious trouble (not that he will be.) Idiocy from the LA Times.

Heartland info & FAQ

WUWT Gleick thread, part two.

Fakegate timeline

3/1: A graphic which beautifully illustrates the overwhelming superiority of Heartland funding.

3/11: Nice to be proven right (2/21 above:)  17 Days Later, Peter Gleick is Back in the Saddle

3/19: The climate of history – condemned to repeat it. “Some have suggested that the Fakegate affair has been discussed enough. They are wrong. Peter Gleick is a minor figure in climate science and his actions are of little account. But the reaction of all the global warming alarmists, who see nothing wrong with what he did, is much more significant.” Includes bits appropriate for classroom discussion. Also includes links to what the hysterics believe should be done to “deniers,” including the 10:10 video.

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Money, Funding, Greenpeace, and Being Green Pays Rather Well..

Posted by greg2213 on June 29, 2011

Update 11/11/13: 

$165 Billion spent by the US gov’t and zero effect, other that creating a lot of jobs in research and the hype and alarm industries.No wonder they don’t want the gravy train to end, that’s me a lot of people to hire on to McDonalds or something. The climate didn’t notice or care. Go here.

Update 11/3/13: 

So now Wall Street is going to dump zillions into the Global Warming story, with the help of the President of the US. From the Daily Bell:

The party is on.

And you read it here first.

As we observe this phenomenon, we realize that global warming is going to play a big role in Wall Street’s upcoming and ongoing promotion. But let’s take it from the top.

Two significant things just happened that confirm a furtherance of this trend.

  • Yesterday, November 1st, President Barack Obama signed an executive order instructing states to ready themselves for the “environmental impact” of climate change.
  • At the same time, one of Hollywood’s most successful and power directors, James Cameron, announced he is creating a global warming drama coming to Showtime cable in April and called “Years of Living Dangerously.”

April is obviously when this investment party really gets going full-steam. It’s blazing hot already. Thanks to the JOBS Act, we’re aware that thousands of glossy promotional pitches are being sent via snail mail seeking accredited investors.

We track this stuff. It’s truly remarkable. These brochures cost millions and millions to produce. Where’s the money coming from? This is a huge promotion. All the big boys are in on it. One last Wall Street blow-off.

That’s how they operate. It boggles the mind. People can’t conceive of the vastness of these modern promotions. The entire industrial and promotional might of the Western world is seized and put into service – including the President of the United States.

Read more here.

Update 8/17/13:

In a post by the Wa. Examiner:

“In the past decade or so, there were 345,052 foundation grants for the environment, totaling $20,826,664,000 (that’s twenty billion dollars and change), according to an authoritative database.”

“However, I tracked foundation grants to see who was really the power and direction behind the campaigns and protests and lawyers and lobbyists. Today, foundations are the backbone of Big Green.

My survey found the Pew Charitable Trusts at Number 10, the bottom of the big-grant heap with $40 million to Oceana, a Washington-based ocean-only group formed in 2001 by — who else? — the Pew Charitable Trusts, Oak Foundation, Marisla Foundation, and Rockefeller Brothers Fund — foundations creating Big Green activists to satisfy foundation agendas.”

Here’s the rest:

Update 5/15:13:

Update 5/4/13:

Update 4/27/13:

Now why would Shell Oil bother to fund skeptics when gov’t is going to hand them a ton of money from the CO2 hysteria?

CALGARY – Royal Dutch Shell and its partners aim to be the first to capture and store carbon dioxide emissions from the oilsands — a project that relies heavily on government funding and that the companies aren’t counting on to generate financial returns.

Shell estimates the project, called Quest, will cut direct emissions from the upgrader by 35 per cent — the equivalent of taking 175,000 cars off the road.

But the overall CO2 reduction is expected to be about 15 per cent, taking into account the mining of the ore, its transportation to Scotford and its upgrading into a type of crude refineries can handle.

The Alberta and federal governments are kicking in a collective $865 million toward Quest, which is expected to start up in 2015. The cost of constructing the project and operating it for 10 years is expected to be $1.35 billion.

From HuffPo

Update 3/28/13:

BRUSSELS, Belgium, February 8, 2013 (ENS) – European heads of state and government have agreed to commit at least 20 percent of the entire European Union budget over the next seven years to climate-related spending.

The seven-year budget was agreed at 960 billion euros ($1.28 trillion). By comparison, the budget for the years 2007-2013 was 975.777 billion euros.

$256 billion….

Update 3/8/13:

From WUWT: Over the past three years, the Tides Foundation and Tides Center alone poured $335 million into environmentalist climate campaigns, and $1 billion into green lobbies at large, notes Undue Influence author Ron Arnold. Major US donors gave $199 million to Canadian environmental groups just for anti-oil sands and Keystone pipeline battles during the last twelve years, analysts Vivian Krause and Brian Seasholes estimate; the Tides Foundation poured $10 million into these battles during 2009-2012.

All told, US foundations alone have “invested” over $797 million in environmentalist climate campaigns since 2000! And over $19.3 billion in “environmental” efforts since 1995, Arnold calculates! Add to that the tens of billions that environmental activist groups, universities and other organizations have received from individual donors, corporations and government agencies to promote “manmade climate disaster” theories – and pretty soon you’re talking real money.

Moreover, that’s just US cash. It doesn’t include EU, UN and other climate cataclysm contributions. Nor does it include US or global spending on wind, solar, biofuel and other “renewable” energy schemes. That this money has caused widespread pernicious and corrupting effects should surprise no one.

Update 2/6/13: EU pays Greenpeace and WWF to… lobby the EU.

Update 7/27/12: More about the money:

Original Post:

One of the (many) delusions that the Alarmist/Green side has is that Big Oil lavishly funds those skeptical of the “science” of CAGW. As with pretty much all of the rest of their catastrophist thinking, there is very little reality behind the claim. Here’s a clip:

A report in the Washington Examiner, entitled “Working for Big Green can be a very enriching experience” by Mark Tapscott, showed that the leaders of 15 top Big Green environmental groups are paid more than $300,000 in annual compensation, with a half million dollar plus figure for the top “earner”.

He mentions that Environmental Defense Fund President Frederic Krupp, receives total compensation of $496,174, including $446,072 in salary and $50,102 in other compensation.

Close behind Krupp among Big Green environmental movement executives is World Wildlife Fund- US President Carter Roberts, who was paid $486,394, including a salary of $439,327 and other compensation of $47,067.

Krupp and Roberts are particularly interesting because EDF and WWF-US both receive funding from the Grantham Foundation and both are on the joint management board of Jeremy Grantham’s climate institutes at the London School of Economics, (LSE), and Imperial College, London.

Jeremy Grantham is the chairman and co-founder of GMO, a $140 billion global investment management company based in Boston with offices in London, San Francisco, Singapore, Sydney and Zurich.

His first excursion into climate funding in the UK was “The Grantham Institute for Climate Change” set up with £12 million, (~$19million) at Imperial College, London in 2007. The chairman of the LSE Grantham Institute, Lord Stern of the infamous Stern Review, is heavily involved in carbon trading via carbon ratings agency, Idea Carbon. He joined IdeaGlobal, the parent company in 2007, as Vice Chairman. He also advises HSBC on carbon trading.

Environmental Defense boast on their website of their influence on policy in Washington and how they get around the law on lobbying caps:

“EDF has long been a powerful voice in Washington, and when the need began to exceed the $1 million annual cap on our lobbying established by tax law, we created a sister group, the Environmental Defense Action Fund, which is free of spending limits. This has enabled us to ratchet up our legislative efforts, particularly on climate, and to advocate strong environmental laws even as the stakes increase.”

here’s the rest of this juicy article: The Log in the Eye of Greenpeace

From JoNova: When ExxonMobil pays just $23 million to skeptics the headlines run wild. But when $79 billion is poured into one theory, it doesn’t rate a mention. (my remark: So if $23 mil discredits the skeptics then it stands to reason that the Alarmists are 3,400 times less credible. ) She, quite reasonably, asks: “Why are the crucial checks of the science that underlie changes to entire economies left to unpaid bloggers and retired scientists?”

More from JoNova: Climate funding exposed and the SPPI article on Climate Money

And more: Climate money: Big government (vastly) outspends big oil

Big Oil spends 23 mill over 10 years, Al Gore spends $300 mil in a lot less time.

By the way, all of the above are US numbers. Bring in Euro funding, Eco group funding (Greenpeace, WWF, other foundations, Soros, etc.) and the numbers are much larger.

Interesting comment: The oil industry has a vested interest in the partial success of the environmental movement. If the oil companies conspired together to force prices up by limiting production, they would quickly find themselves in court on antitrust charges. So instead, they happily give a few hundred million dollars to the environmentalists, the greens lobby the government to limit production and force prices up, and everybody gets what they want. The greens can feel good for “saving the planet”, the politicians get more power, and the oil companies rake in their billions. Only the consumer is left out.

Heh. Green ponzi scheme crashes.

Speaking of paying well, the guy who holds the patent on the carbon-trading idea stands to make out rather well if our government entities go through with that idea.

From JoNova 7/15: (Regarding a new climate rap video) The warmers have been pretending for so long that they are the little guys fighting Big Oil, Big Industry, and Bad Government. The ruse worked so well, that the bubble is ripe for busting. They can’t “fight” the establishment — they are the Establishment.  They have a $144 billion carbon trading scheme, a $243 billion  renewables investment annually, not to mention a UN agency, and whole Western Government Departments spinning their dogma.  What self respecting youth wants to be a useful idiot fighting for their profits?

More links to Green Funding

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Earth Hour? No, I Don’t Think So.

Posted by greg2213 on March 25, 2011

Ross McKitrick, persona non grata to the Alarmist crowd, really says it best, here:

In 2009 I was asked by a journalist for my thoughts on the importance of Earth Hour. Here is my response.I abhor Earth Hour. Abundant, cheap electricity has been the greatest source of human liberation in the 20th century. Every material social advance in the 20th century depended on the proliferation of inexpensive and reliable electricity. Giving women the freedom to work outside the home depended on the availability of electrical appliances that free up time from domestic chores. Getting children out of menial labour and into schools depended on the same thing, as well as the ability to provide safe indoor lighting for reading.

I’m not intereste in going back to the nasty, brutal, short lives that the Greens would have us live. Oh, wait, only most of us would have to live that way. Some greens would sacrifice themselves to lives of ample energy and technology so that they could better communicate, to we poverty stricken peons,  the true word of the Green. I’m sure his Holiness, Al Gore, would be one of those willing to sacrifice himself to such a miserable life so that he could be sure that we were living correctly. Hmmm…. sounds like certain medieval Churches…
Ok, maybe I am being too snarky. Maybe not. The Holier Than Thou attitude does tend to grate…
Here’s a guy who has a good idea on how to pay the proper respect to the Earth Hour crowd:

It’s unclear how many GTA homes will partake in turning off their lights to honour Earth Hour Saturday. But don’t count in the Menzies in the collective, self-imposed blackout!

“We will not be in the dark,” journalist and conservative commentator David Menzies said Thursday.

Instead, what you will find is a giant beacon in the sky emanating from his Richmond Hill street between 8:30 and 9:30 p.m.

“While everybody else has their lights off I will have every light in my house on,” said Menzies, as he prepared for his second installment in mocking the “phony” Earth Hour movement.

He’s also gone a step further.

“I have rented four rotating Hollywood movie lights which will light up the sky for miles,” he said.

Read the rest: Making light of the phony Earth Hour

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Big Business, Big Government, and “Warming”

Posted by greg2213 on August 3, 2010


Ok, who’s naive enough to think that Cap and Tax is dead? (Tax is what it’s all about, not environment.) Raise your hand. Remember that besides pretty much all of the Democrats, plenty of Republicans support it (and various other “green” measures) as well. Barring a massive change come Nov. we’ll see C&T raise its economy destroying head again. (Update: Actually, we’ll probably see it anyway in the “Lame Duck” session after the elections, as the Dems throw a final F.U. to the people.)

Big business loves C&T, if it’s in a position to profit from the trades (Goldman-Sachs will make billions. I expect they’ll send Obama and the Dems some major “thank you” gifts.) Business stand to make billions and is pumping a lot of money into C&T and related concepts. They’re not spending it on “skeptical” research. Government loves C&T, more money to obtain power and buy favors (and Democrats do love their taxes. ) Heck, most of the world’s governments are right in line with that last part.

Of course, it’s the rare alarmist that cares that the “warming mitigation” plans are being supported by big business looking to make serious money, they see it as their (the Green’s) rightful rulership over we, the mindless peons. Who woulda thought that the Greens were so in favor of this version of capitalism? Big Green = Big Biz = Big Gov and the little guy gets it in the shorts. The whole game really is about money and power, not about environmental issues.

Now, if we cut Big Gov’s paycheck by a massive amount then we damage that incestuous relationship. (And isn’t it interesting that the proposed solutions to the self-inflicted Government money woes are all along the lines of greater funding/taxes?)

Less funding of the climate scam might result in better science and the “too big to fail” mantra so loved by the current administration (and others) is license for all kinds of Business nonsense. They can get away with anything, knowing that Gov will bail them out (and the Gov probably laid the rules for Biz to do the “anything” in the first place, see “CRA”.) Wean Big Green and Big Biz off the Government cash stream and we might get better quality stuff out of all three.


From IBD:

Taxes: While the oil and gas companies are bearing the brunt of taxation, regulation and environmental angst, others are doing just fine, thank you. If you think cap-and-trade is dead, just follow the money.

According to a recently released Center for Responsive Politics review of reports filed with the U.S. Senate and U.S. House, General Electric and its subsidiaries spent more than $9.5 million on federal lobbying from April to June — the most it’s spent on lobbying since President Obama has been in office.

Why? As the fight over cap-and-trade grows, so does lobbying. Since January, GE and its units have spent more than $17.6 million on lobbying — a jump of 50% over the first six months of 2009.

GE is just one of many organizations and individuals that stand to make money if cap-and-trade makes it through Congress

Here’s the rest: Climate Profiteers

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The Greens Aren’t Very Nice, Are They?

Posted by greg2213 on May 27, 2010

Update 8/6/11:

Recently, radical environmentalists have waged a campaign to stifle free enterprise and economic freedom. Here are some of their recent skirmishes, ranging from crop destruction in Australia to attacks on toy companies like Lego and Disney…

Original Post:

C3 Headlines notes some of the things the alarmists have said about the skeptics. Brings back fond memories of the Spanish Inquisition… I guess they feel their gravy train is being threatened.

From:  Hate Unleashed: What’s Driving The Hate Speech & Violence Threats of Global Warmistas?

  • James Hansen of NASA wanted trials for climate skeptics,  accusing them of high crimes against humanity
  • Robert Kennedy Jr. called climate skeptics traitors
  • Yvo de Boer of the UN called climate skepticism criminally irresponsible
  • David Suzuki called for politicians who ignore climate science to be jailed
  • DeSmogBlog’s James Hoggan wants skeptics treated as war criminals (video)
  • Grist called for Nuremberg trials for skeptics
  • Joe Romm encourages the idea that skeptics will be strangled in their beds
  • A blogger at TPM pondered when it would be acceptable to execute climate deniers
  • Heidi Cullen of The Weather Channel called for skeptical forecasters to be decertified
  • Bernie Sanders compared climate skeptics to Nazi appeasers.
  • [Not to mention Greenpeace declaring that “they know where you live”] Here’s the current page, where Greeenpeace posts its case for “that quote was taken WAY out of context,”  and here’s an article regarding the original post. Hopefully GP took the writer into a dark back room and made it very clear to the fellow that their goal is to win hearts and minds, not spit on them. Personally, I think they took him into the party room and gave him a round of “high-fives.”

ClimateQuotes collects, you guessed it, quotes from other wild and wacky alarmist types. For example, here’s their Al Gore page.

And then, there are various other quotes by various extreme types…

Let’s not forget the 10:10 video. These are such lovely people.

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