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Climate Rap Disses the CRU (and Co.)

Posted by greg2213 on July 15, 2011

And it introduces the term Climate Hugger.

Now, if you think the the rapper is some capitalist corporate lackey right-wing conservative etc, well, the end of the video will change your mind.

JoNova says:

This is a great turning point. I know this has been circulating for weeks, but if you haven’t seen this climate rap, do check it out. Good Friday night stuff.

The warmers have been pretending for so long that they are the little guys fighting Big Oil, Big Industry, and Bad Government. The ruse worked so well, that the bubble is ripe for busting. They can’t “fight” the establishment — they are the Establishment.  They have a $144 billion carbon trading scheme, a $243 billion  renewables investment annually, not to mention a UN agency, and whole Western Government Departments spinning their dogma.  What self respecting youth wants to be a useful idiot fighting for their profits?

the post: The pendulum is swinging back now: Climate Rap

Here’s the video:



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The Verdict: Global Warming Doesn’t Stand Up to Reality

Posted by greg2213 on June 9, 2010

Note: We’re talking about Gore’s version of Global Warming, not the reality of ~.6C over 120 some odd years. Even that number is open to question, given the players involved, the questions about the surface record, Urban Heat Island effects, and so on.

Of course, it isn’t the reality which is driving the policies, it’s the Gore driven hype.


The Financial Post has the article:

A cross examination of global warming science conducted by the University of Pennsylvania’s Institute for Law and Economics has concluded that virtually every claim advanced by global warming proponents fail to stand up to scrutiny.

The cross-examination, carried out by Jason Scott Johnston, Professor and Director of the Program on Law, Environment and Economy at the University of Pennsylvania Law School, found that “on virtually every major issue in climate change science, the [reports of the UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change] and other summarizing work by leading climate establishment scientists have adopted various rhetorical strategies that seem to systematically conceal or minimize what appear to be fundamental scientific uncertainties or even disagreements.”

The rest: Legal verdict: Manmade global warming science doesn’t withstand scrutiny

The 79 page PDF, which dismantles the AGW case, can be found here: Global Warming Advocacy Science: a Cross Examination

The WUWT post, with the usual interesting comments, is here: Legal beagle says: Manmade global warming science doesn’t withstand scrutiny

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Increased Strife from Global Warming? Not Likely.

Posted by greg2213 on March 30, 2010

One of the scenarios posted by the scaremongers is that a warming world will be a more violent world. In addition to stress from being warmer people will fight over dwindling resources, such as water.

Nevermind that there is little to no evidence of the resource issue occuring, and that there is a lot of evidence that a warmer world is a better one for people,plants, and critters.

CO2science has a paper that demonstrates that the issues would come from global cooling, not warming (emphasis mine.)

The results of Tol and Wagner’s analyses provide additional evidence that, as they describe it, “periods with lower temperatures in the pre-industrial era are accompanied by violent conflicts.” However, they determined that “this effect is much weaker in the modern world than it was in pre-industrial times,” which implies, in their words, “that future global warming is not likely to lead to (civil) war between (within) European countries.” Therefore, they conclude that “should anyone ever seriously have believed that, this paper does put that idea to rest.”

The rest: War and Peace … and Climate Change

I’m solidly in the camp that says, “Extreme claims of problems/damage from global warming should be taken with large grains of salt, at best. Generally, it’s probably best to laugh at them.”

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Ocean Acidification

Posted by greg2213 on March 30, 2010

It looks like the next great hoax to follow the global warming scam (and I’m not talking about the .5 to 1.0C that the world may have warmed over the last 100+ years) is ocean acidification.

WUWT has Ocean acidification: the “evil twin of global warming”

The rise in human emissions of carbon dioxide is driving fundamental and dangerous changes in the chemistry and ecosystems of the world’s oceans, international marine scientists warned today.

“Ocean conditions are already more extreme than those experienced by marine organisms and ecosystems for millions of years,” the researchers say in the latest issue of the journal Trends in Ecology and Evolution (TREE).

The report is pretty thoroughly ripped to pieces in the comments. Some of them cal it “grant bait.”

More stuff on “acidification

My view: aince airborne CO2 is trivial compared to oceanic CO2 and since the ocean is a well buffered system and since warming oceans release CO2 and since historic CO2 levels have been far higher with no issues of acid oceans and since oceanic organisms have shown their ability to adapt to higher and lower CO2 I conclude that acidification is a non-issue. More likely the reverse is true, that increased CO2 will be a boon in water as it is on land.

  • Monckton on acidification – corrects Sigourney Weaver’s scary movie on acidification. (Here’s the PDF)
  • China Sea pH bounces all over
  • SeaFriends site on Acidification – “Alkalinity in the ocean depends substantially on the plankton balance in which the pH results from autotrophs (plants) using hydrogen ions and driving the pH up, while decomposers return hydrogen ions, thus driving the pH down. The daily rhythm can amount to 0.4pH units (250%), and the difference between estuaries and the open sea as much as 1-2 units (1000-10,000%). It is important to keep this in mind, as one can find healthy calcification in shells in these conditions. When seas become eutrophied (overnourished), they also become more acidic due to high levels of decomposing bacteria and their work. Particularly coastal seas show this.”
  • CO2, acidification, tempering of extreme views

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CO2 Pollution – More Thoughts

Posted by greg2213 on February 22, 2010


From 10/12/13: “We try to keep CO2 levels in our U.S. Navy submarines no higher than 8,000 parts per million, about 20 time current atmospheric levels. Few adverse effects are observed at even higher levels.”



5/31/13: Elevated carbon dioxide making arid regions greener

Update 5/7/13:

Update 2/25/13: Principia beats up on the CO2 argument. It makes sense. If we run the CO2 argument through the IPCC statement, ” …we should recognise that we are dealing with a coupled non-linear chaotic system, and therefore that the long-term prediction of future climate states is not possible…” then the results of added CO2 are also not predictble.

Update: More on CO2 as plant (and human) food.

Saw something in my stats. Someone found this site under the term co2 pollution (#10 in Google for that term) so I figure, what the heck, I’ll toss in some more thoughts on CO2.

Also see my other post on the subject: DOOM From CO2 Pollution

Briefly, CO2 is not, in any way, shape, or form, a pollutant in the generally understood meaning of the term. It’s a primary leg of the entire eco-system. CO2, water, sunlight. Personally, I think any “greens” who believe that CO2 is a pollutant should have their I’m a green card removed.

So why would anyone call CO2 a pollutant?

Agenda. Power and money. Any Government that controls CO2 controls most of our energy production, transportation, and any other industry that relies on those two things. And that’s pretty much all of them. Pretty sweet deal if you’re  a big gov type, socialist, communist, dictator… wait… that’s almost every government on the planet. Hmm… Makes one think that the greens might have something other than “saving the ecosystem” on their minds, doesn’t it?

Carbon trading might become a trillion dollar business. Not a bad game since nothing real is being traded and Gov gets to collect taxes from the deal. That’s why all the banks are in on the game. And many of the Oil companies.

Back to CO2…

  1. IF CO2 is driving global warming and
  2. IF people are responsible for enough CO2 to have a global effect and
  3. IF warming is a bad thing then

CO2 might be a bad thing.

However… #1 looks to be wrong, #2 is iffy by itself and dead if #1 is wrong, and #3 has been shown to be wrong given the historical & geological record.

So given that the CO2 is a supporting leg of the entire ecosystem of this planet the only possible conclusion is that CO2 is a very good thing and more of it would also be a good thing. The ecosystem will thank us.

Someone told me that thousands of peer-reviewed papers stated that CO2 is a pollutant, in the standard use of that word. I don’t believe that. I don’t think there’s one PR paper that shows that, though there might behundreds that that link CO2 to warming.

More on CO2 benefits.

CO2 science has a ton of great info and a number of these links are from that site.

Double CO2 increases crops 33% – So if over population is an issue (increasing tech decreases population growth) then increasing food supplies might be seen as a good idea by some.


CO2 is a Pollutant? Objectivist Individualist: “…So, if CO2 is a pollutant because it is a greenhouse gas, then so is water. We should next expect to see the EPA drawing up restrictions on the human use of water which may add to the water vapor concentration in the atmosphere…”


CO2 depletion
“Plant photosynthetic activity can reduce the CO2 within the plant canopy to between 200 and 250 ppm… I observed a 50 ppm drop in within a tomato plant canopy just a few minutes after direct sunlight at dawn entered a green house (Harper et al 1979) … photosynthesis can be halted when CO2 concentration approaches 200 ppm… (Morgan 2003) Carbon dioxide is heavier than air and does not easily mix into the greenhouse atmosphere by diffusion… “

CO2 and Wheat
“The CO2 concentration at 2 m above the crop was found to be fairly constant during the daylight hours on single days or from day-to-day throughout the growing season ranging from about 310 to 320 p.p.m. Nocturnal values were more variable and were between 10 and 200 p.p.m. higher than the daytime values. “

Surprise: Earths’ Biosphere is Booming, Satellite Data Suggests CO2 the Cause

Planet Earth is on a roll! GPP is way up. NPP is way up. To the surprise of those who have been bearish on the planet, the data shows global production has been steadily climbing to record levels, ones not seen since these measurements began.

GPP is Gross Primary Production, a measure of the daily output of the global biosphere –the amount of new plant matter on land. NPP is Net Primary Production, an annual tally of the globe’s production. Biomass is booming. The planet is the greenest it’s been in decades, perhaps in centuries.

Isolated for 42 days in chambers of ambient and elevated CO2 concentrations, we periodically document the growth of cowpea plants (Vigna unguiculata) via time-lapse photography. From CO2 Science:

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The Death of Global Warming???

Posted by greg2213 on February 2, 2010

The SPPI blog has a guest post titled, “The Death of Global Warming.” It’s an interesting post, worth reading, even though it’s from a true believer.  I’m going to add a few comments here.

First off, though, “Global Warming” died years back when the term was changed to the meaningless Climate Change. This was a simple acknowledgment that there is no there, there, despite what the alarmists try to push. Note that no one on the believer side is worried about global cooling. Fact is, the climate does change and has been for billions of years. And yes, I know that Climate Change is short for Catastrophic Man Made Climate Change. My remark still stands.

Also note that the small amount of warming that we might have actually seen (and which we haven’t seen for a few years) is an entirely separate thing from the hysterical alarmism that created the Copenhagen conference.

The global warming movement as we have known it is dead.  Its health had been in steady decline during the last year as the once robust hopes for a strong and legally binding treaty to be agreed upon at the Copenhagen Summit faded away…

The movement died from two causes: bad science and bad politics.

After years in which global warming activists had lectured everyone about the overwhelming nature of the scientific evidence, it turned out that the most prestigious agencies in the global warming movement were breaking laws, hiding data, and making inflated, bogus claims resting on, in some cases, no scientific basis at all…

With this in mind, ‘climategate’ — the scandal over hacked emails by prominent climate scientists — looks sinister rather than just unsavory…

That the Global Warming Movement is dead is a very good thing and it’s very hard to build a case on bad science. By the way, the emails were leaked by an insider, not hacked.

Ok, now lets get to what I want to comment on…

The global warmists were trapped into the necessity of hyping the threat by their realization that the actual evidence they had — which, let me emphasize, all hype aside, is serious, troubling and establishes in my mind the need for intensive additional research and investigation, as well as some prudential steps that would reduce CO2 emissions by enhancing fuel use efficiency and promoting alternative energy sources…

Serious and troubling, based on what? There is zero evidence that warmer temperatures, if, in fact, those are actually in the pipeline, are a bad thing. Cooler temps certainly are a bad thing, as can be seen by the death stats. Greatly cooling temps would be disasterous, unless you like the idea of living under a permanent glacier.

CO2 is also a good thing and the evidence that it is a pollutant is nill. Regardless of what effect it may have on climate. See this post for more about CO2.

Now it has failed.  Not everything that has come out of the IPCC and the East Anglia Climate Unit is false, but enough of their product is sufficiently tainted that these institutions can best serve the cause of fighting climate change by stepping out of the picture…

Absolutely. The issue, of course, is whether the media leaves its staunchly alarmist position and whether those in power become more skeptical. If these things don’t happen then the 2013 IPCC report will likely be more of the same and it will be left to the bloggers to do the media’s (and Gov’s) job for them. Any new UN climate group might not be named “IPCC,” but we can be pretty sure their goals will remain the same. They might do a better job of covering up iffy science, but I don’t believe they will actually disown the hype in favor of reality. Unless they hop onto a cooling bandwagon, like we saw in the 70s.

The global warming campaigners got into this mess because they had a deeply flawed political strategy.  They were never able to develop a pragmatic approach that could reach its goals in the context of the existing international system.

They were never able to substantiate their extreme claims in any way, that’s why they’re in this mess. Their proposed programs are intended and designed to shackle western civilization and centralize a lot of power and money with government, not help people with any of the claimed problems of warming.

If a large asteroid was on a course to slam into the Earth I think you’d see some serious cooperation. You’d have a few skeptics and a few who would want that asteroid to hit (wipe out the horrors of civilization,) but most people and Gov’s would be right on board.

Without a commitment from the United States to pay its share of the $100 billion plus per year that poor countries wanted as their price for compliance, and without US participation in other aspects of the proposed global approach, the intricate global deals fall apart.

Does anyone believe that any of that $100 billion would go to anything that would have any effect on the climate? All it would do is increase the number of Government palaces and increase the number of exotic cars and toys among the ruling classes of those countries (remember that people like Castro, Chavez, and the late S. Hussein are/were very rich from siphoning off cash flows to their accounts.)  The people would still be screwed, but western countries would have their leg irons, which is, after all, the whole idea.

Countries would cheat, either because they chose to do so or because their domestic systems are so weak, so corrupt or so both that they simply wouldn’t be able to comply…

This is the best argument for adaptation as opposed to economy crushing mitigation, even if warming was real and was dangerous.

The death of global warming (the movement, not the phenomenon) has some important political and cultural consequences in the United States that I’ll be blogging on down the road.  Basically, Sarah Palin 1, Al Gore zip.  The global warming meltdown confirms all the populist suspicions out there about an arrogantly clueless establishment invoking faked ’science’ to impose cockamamie social mandates on the long-suffering American people, backed by a mainstream media that is totally in the tank. Don’t think this won’t have consequences…

Yes, the phenomenon is dead, because if it isn’t dangerous then there is no reason to crush our economies to prevent it. The proponents have failed miserably to build the case that warming is dangerous, much less catastrophic. Lots of hype, zero science (science showing warming is not science showing that warming is dangerous.)

  1. Sarah Palin 1, Al Gore zip – Given Ms. Palin’s leanings I’d say the score in her favor is much higher. Objectively, her view on warming is far closer to reality than Gore’s (or Obama’s)
  2. an arrogantly clueless establishment – The Western world has shed a lot of blood to get rid of arrogantly clueless leaders over the last few hundred years. There’s no reason to go back under the thumb of people who want to rule us for their own good. We’ve been there. The next job is to get the rest of the world out from under the boots of these people.
  3. invoking faked ’science’ – Hide the decline, IPCC using WWF as a trusted source, climate theories ripped to pieces by engineers and other scientists, huge majorities of scientists saying AGW is crap, and so on.
  4. cockamamie social mandates – That sums it up nicely. The mandates are about power and money, not about helping anyone (except maybe carbon traders.)
  5. mainstream media that is totally in the tank – Which has been proven repeatedly.
  6. Don’t think this won’t have consequences – Is that a threat? Those consequences aren’t climate related so does this mean that the watermelon crowd will will get even more shrill over the non-existent threat?

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DOOM From CO2 Pollution

Posted by greg2213 on February 2, 2010

One of the amusing concepts of AGW hysteria is the idea that CO2 is a pollutant. Here are a few links to convincingly demonstrate the awfulness of CO2:

Forests in the Eastern United States are growing faster than they have in the past 225 years

In Praise of CO2

Rising Tree Mortality – Gore is wrong, yet again. Is anyone surprised?

So, you want to scrub CO2 from the atmosphere? – A little lesson on plant biology.

Doubling CO2 will have the catastrophic effect of greatly increasing crop yields.

Sea Scientists Say That the Oceans Hate CO2 – “Now the doomsayers are telling you that the oceans are turning acid from all that nasty carbon dioxide being absorbed into the seas. How frightening! Or perhaps…”

Environmental Effects of Increased Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide (pdf) – A review of the research literature concerning the environmental consequences of increased levels of atmospheric carbon dioxide leads to the conclusion that increases during the 20th and early 21st centuries have produced no deleterious effects upon Earth’s weather and climate. Increased carbon di oxide
has, however, markedly…

The Future of Life on Earth: What to Do about CO2 – because more CO2 in the air is what we desperately need, in order to prevent the planet from experiencing one of the greatest mass extinctions events of its entire history.

CO2 and Butterfly Extinction – A summary of several papers dealing on the subject.

The Cancer-Kale Connection: What’s CO2 Got To Do With It? – A discussion of the effects CO2 has on the cancer fighting properties of Chinese Kale.

CO2 Pollution Causes the Earth to Grow Greener. A NASA-Department of Energy jointly funded study concludes the Earth has been greening over the past 20 years. As climate changed…

A hardcore green admits to CO2 increasing biomass.

Amazon Forests doomed as CO2 increases biomass… waitaminute…

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Debunked – Worries About the Collapse of the Gulf Stream

Posted by greg2213 on January 17, 2010

People worry about conditions in the Arctic causing the collapse of ocean current systems, keeping Europe warmer than otherwise, said collapse resulting in another ice age. Nothing to worry about here.

North Atlantic Thermohaline Circulation / Gulf Stream

Some global warming alarmists suggest that the North Atlantic Thermohaline Circulation (NATC) or (Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation) will be disrupted by the melting of the Arctic ice cap, causing an ice age. This is known by scientists to be a bogus scenario.

This has mainly come about due to a general misunderstanding of the NATC and the Gulf Stream.

Rest the rest, here.

Among other things, the above links to additions events and demonstrates that there are no worries about “Global Warming” causing issues, with precipitation, hurricanes, ice caps, sea level rise, glaciers, polar bears (and other critters,) or human disease.

Surprising Return of North Atlantic Circulation Pump

One of the “pumps” contributing to the ocean’s global circulation suddenly switched on again last winter for the first time this decade, scientists reported Tuesday ( Dec. 23 ) in Nature Geoscience.

Here’s the rest

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Inconvenient Facts for “An Inconvenient Truth”

Posted by greg2213 on January 16, 2010

Once upon a time Al Gore came out with his Science Fantasy/Horror flick An Inconvenient Truth (AIT.) Like an good fantasy it took a bit from “what’s real” and ran from there to interesting conclusions.

What’s interesting about the AIT story, of course, is that people want to base real policy on this fictional work. Here are a couple of links to sites pointing out some of Gore’s fictional points.

From 2006: Lord Monckton’s reply to Gore and a 2nd pdf on the same topic.

2007: A similar debunking from CEI

2007 : How incredibly rational: UK Judge rules that AIT cannot be shown to school kids without a disclaimer pointing out various errors in AIT. Here.

2007: Steyn on Gore – A COUPLE of days before Al Gore was awarded his Nobel Peace prize, Michael Burton, an English High Court judge and apparently a fine film critic, ruled that Al’s Oscar-winner An Inconvenient Truth was prone to “alarmism and exaggeration” and identified nine major factual errors.

2006: A sampling of Scientists’ remarks about AIT

2007: A Harvard editor seems to have an issue with Gore’s hypocrisy. Here’s Newsbuster’s take.

2007: Some questions to ask the Alarmists

2007: Global Warming: The Cold, Hard Facts?

Now, I really don’t begrudge Gore the chance to make a buck, or a lot of bucks. More power to him. If he wants to have a home that’s 50x the size of mine and jet all over the world in a private jet, well, that’s pretty damn cool.

What I DO mind is that he’s selling the Gov on policies that will crush everyone else’s right to try to achieve the same thing. Not to mention what those policies it will do to the people in the undeveloped world. Kindof like Communism. The Exhalted Leaders lead the good life (and so do their associates) while the people suffer.

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