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Scientists Speak Out on Hide the Decline

Posted by greg2213 on March 6, 2011

Update 8/9/12: Interview with Dr. Richard Muller.

Original Post

In my view, and what do I know, hide the decline is simply a way to cheat the system. You don’t like what your primary data is showing so you clip it and add in new data, from an unrelated set, which is moving in the correct direction. This is Standard Operating Procedure according to the defenders and there’s nothing particularly unusual or interesting about it.

(Update 2/8/12 – Speaking of data tampering, check this out. )

I think that if I had done that in my science classes I would have been failed, if I had been caught. I still think it’s cheating, even if the defenders think it’s just fine. Kinda like software piracy, ya know? Most people think it’s just fine, at least in some cases.

NoFrakkinConsensus (NFC) has a great post on the subject and a certain Berkeley physicist (Dr. Richard Muller) seems to agree with me.

The justification would not have survived peer review in any journal that I’m willing to publish in. But they had it well hidden…And what is the result in my mind? Quite frankly, as a scientist, I now have a list of people whose papers I won’t read anymore. You’re not allowed to do this in science. This is not up to our standards. I get infuriated with colleagues of mine who say, “Well, you know, it’s a human field. You make mistakes.” And then I show them this and they say “Ah, no, that’s not acceptable.” [bold added]

Here’s the rest: Scientists Speak Out – and it comes with lots of links to more good stuff.

The Video:

Personally, I would like to think that any real scientist would be offended by Hide the Decline, but again, what do I know? Money (grant money,) power, and directives from one’s superiors are great incentives to fudge the science.

Dr. Muller also points out, at about 4:30 in that video on NFC, that these are the same people who came up with that graph that shows current temps to be higher than in the 30s, when US measurements show the 30s to be at least as high. He seems to feel that that graph has much less credibility now, given the group that produced it is the same as the group that hid the decline. Verrrry interesting.

The physicist mentioned above, one Dr. Muller, is also heading the BEST project, which is intended to get to the bottom of the temperature issues, “to redo all of this, in a totally transparent way.” Given what Dr. Muller said regarding hide the decline I think that some interesting science might actually happen here. This is what BEST says:

A transparent approach, Based on data analysis
Our aim is to resolve current criticism of the former temperature analyses, and to prepare an open record that will allow rapid response to further criticism or suggestions. Our results will include not only our best estimate for the global temperature change, but estimates of the uncertainties in the record.
WUWT has some interesting stuff to say about this project.

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On Hiding Past Cooling Trends

Posted by greg2213 on March 18, 2010

There are several reports of older print articles discussing the steep cooling period from about 1940 to about 1978 (which gave rise to the “coming ice age” scare of the 70s.) One of the reasons the cooling period is interesting is because of several more recent adjustments to make it warmer (and boost the alarmist cause.)

JoNova discusses it here:

Human emissions of carbon dioxide began a sharp rise from 1945. But, temperatures, it seems, may have plummeted over half the globe during the next few decades. Just how large or how insignificant was that decline?

here’s the rest: Hide the decline and rewrite history?

She also has a followup post: Where did the decline go?

WattsUpWithThat? also has the story: Weather balloon data backs up missing decline found in old magazine

And Hide the Decline has even more detail and some interesting comments.He also points out why the measurements of the cooling are probably good.

Next to the historic data war on the Medieval Warm Period, the data war on the 1940-78 perhaps stands as the most bitter and intense climate disagreement.

Here’s the rest: Decline: Temperature decline 1940-78, the cold data-war

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